Last evening, eleven bleeding-edge wine and tech geeks converged on Capozzi Island in the virtual world of Second Life to discuss Wine 2.0. Since some of us didn’t get out for the real-world meetup in San Francisco a while back, it was the first time we had “met” many of the attendees. After some early troubles finding the right place, or getting on the island itself (sorry, Calben Gastel), we settled in for a group discussion.
For readers not familiar with Second Life, it is a video game-like virtual world with 3D avatars representing each person in the group. A chat interface is used to communicate along with gestures of the avatars. Second Life has it’s own economic system that you can buy into to collect goods for your avatar or virtually, setup shop. But just wandering around and using the service is free. Josh from Pinotblogger/Capozzi Winery kindly let us use his island (still under construction) for the meetup so we wouldn’t have to contend with others stumbling into our conversation.
Like El Jefe blogged last night, getting adjusted to this brave new world is a bit of a challenge for us aging Baby Boomers but I still think this is the way the internet will be in just a few years. Instead of clicking links and visiting websites, we’ll be wandering around and interacting with other users which presents some interesting marketing issues. More on that in another post over the weekend.
So my takeaway from the session last night was we just scratched the surface of the issues at hand and didn’t really advance the dialog much. The best outcome was the willingness to try this again in another venue later this month and the establishment of a Google Groups for the subject.
After reading the chat transcripts, I get a slightly different view of some of the ideas proposed that somehow I didn’t have a chance to process in realtime, such as Joel’s comments about a wine store in Second Life (or something like it). Imagine the ability to browse such a store with unlimited shelf space, interact with other wine lovers and talk with store staff who could recommend wines to try. Combine that with an online store and fulfillment process and something like this seems not so far into the future.
Another idea that has me intrigued is the notion of connecting communities of interest through wine ratings, like what Cork’d, TastyDrop and WineLog are trying to do. I think this and the subscription mechanism of RSS make for a powerful combination as RSS readers show up on mobile phones. I can imagine finding a wine at a restaurant or wine tasting and immediately call up the same wine on one of the Wine 2.0 sites and adding my score, all via my mobile phone. I could later add my tasting notes when I return to my computer. It will work in the other direction, as well, as I look over the wine list to decide what to choose in a restaurant. Again, call up one of these social wine ratings sites and narrow down the choices.
A lot of interesting ideas where tossed out last night, but not a lot of discussion happened due to the venue and the level of familiarity with the interface. We are looking to schedule another session, this time in Campfire, for Tuesday, December 19th at 9pm EST/6pm PST/2am (Wed.) GMT/1:00 pm (Wed.) AEST. More details to follow in coming days.
Thanks to all who made the journey with me in Second Life and to Josh for allowing us on his island. I think in a few weeks we will really get down to the bottom of this Wine 2.0 opportunity and have some very interesting new announcements.
Stay tuned.
Tim,
Excellent summary and you’re right…we only just scratched the surface on our focus, but we were definitely heading down a similar path. I really look forward to the continuation of our collaborated “wine-meld”.
-Rob (aka Sips)
The cell phone idea. My wife and I kicked that one around around the time we started Wine Life Today. That ability to call it up and give it a quick rating via cell phone is actually a fantastic idea.
Sounds goofy to many US folks but you have to look overseas to see our future – texting is orders of magnitude greater in EU and Asia.
Implementation would require a source for wines so you can “call it up” as you say. Someone or thing would have to populate the DB, but that can be outsourced pretty easily.
Oh, and yes. Great summary and great to exchange ideas with our bleeding edgers (glad I’m not alone)…
Mobile phones will be much more than devices used to call people on in the next 12 months. Whatever Apple comes up with will replace my RAZR and be a better platform for Wine 2.0
The data is out there; a site to aggregate and present to mobile phones is all that remains… who will take up the challenge?
Someone will; perhaps me (or you).
I’m sorry I missed the meet up. But I’m on the mailing list now; shouldn’t happen again.
We have some great plans for interacting with WineLog through a mobile device.
– Currently, you can send txt messages to your phone for wines you find on the site. (look for the “txt” buttons next to wines on the site) What I typically do is search for a wine on the site (through my friend’s wine logs or the wine logs of people who have rated wines I like) and then send about 4-5 of them to my phone. I can usually find at least 1 or 2 of them at the wine store.
-In the future, we plan on implementing a system where you would send a txt message to us with a rating and any information you have about a wine. We would then forward this message to your email address with some handy links to make it easier to search for and log the wine when you get back to your computer.
– And before that we will have a mobile-friendly site for users to browse and search through their wine logs, which should come in handy for those impromptu visits to the wine store.
Thanks again for the write ups on the get together. I can’t wait to join in at the next one.
couldn’t make it this time; an interesting choice for a venue though, so shame I missed it! Will certainly try to make the next one.
Sounds great, Jason. Looking forward to checking out WineLog on my mobile phone.
Sorry for the time, Andy. If you can brave 2am, then join us on 20 December for you. Cheers!